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Old 06-29-2011, 06:00 PM
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Here is a thread loaded (maybe) with ifs. Let's pretend we all have a crystal ball and can see into the future on what surf fishing or fishing in general have to hold. The year now is 2011 so lets gaze into the ball and see 20 years into the future. The year now is 2031 and most of us are dust. Is fish being monitored (controlled, restricted etc). Tackle, boat tech, access to beach, vehicles (aka buggies) etc.?

Let your mind wander to the furture and give your thoughts and just take a shot.

I would think as I gaze into that ball: electronic lures with small battery that wiggles and lights up.
Super restriction on beaches.
High license fees- or pay to fish by the day.

Run with this idea
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Old 06-30-2011, 07:39 AM
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I think that things will be way better than they are today. Just as everything else in our society has been improved, a certain good sense will come into management of resources inspired by all the mistakes we are making today. Long term, nobody wants closures that deny access. Gate keeping, as is done by our NPS, will be long gone. Each time something is done wrong it inspires a response. Ever notice how festidious our election pols are about checking in the voters? That is because of election rigging in your grandfather's day. Our culture is still in its infancy, still learning how to manage itself. But, like heart surgery, computers, communications, we will grow out of a lot of failings.
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Old 06-30-2011, 10:27 AM
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Coastal property values will probably rise further, and, as you suggest, Merlin, access will probably be more restrictive. But we still we be able to fish -- they can arrest me, and throw me in jail, if they try to ban shore fishing -- and once you get to the water's edge, it will still be the way it is now, and the way it was 100 years ago. There's a timelessness about fishing the surf, in that once you get there, the sea, the surf, and everything else are unchangeable. It's one of the things that makes me love it. Your grandfather might have used a handline, and might have been wearing a goofy necktie, but he experienced the surf, aesthetically and spiritually, the same way that you and I do.

I'm 38, and my daughter, lil' Maggie, is 4. I'm not overly eager to see the next 20 years go by, but I am looking forward to fishing with her when she gets older. I hope she likes skulking around in the dark half as much as I do.
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Just got back from a good morning's surf fishing. We got on the beach about 4 AM and after a few mintues checking the nearby bars with our aquascanner, we found a small school of Appolofish harassing a pod of baitfish and a few Meggatarpin lurking down current.

We rigged up our surfguns and fired our moonlures upcurrent of the action. Several shots later, Therese was tight to one of the Meggatarpin I reeled in to give her space. Her surfgun was adequate for the job but it would be tough to keep that silversides inside our alotted surfspot. She held her own and manged to keep the big fish within the 110' of our surfspot. It's a good thing, with the new surfspot allocation being only 55' of beachfront per angler, they do allow husband/wife teams to double their alloted space. That rule has seen a lot more wives joining their spouses on the surfcoast. As she battled the Meggatarpin, we were surrounded on both sides by groups of two dozen or more fisheremen slowly stepping into our space.

The big fish make a last jump and run and then came onto the sand under pressure by my wife as the other anglers crowded into our space. Fortunately two robofishcops
arrived and made them move back.

Once we had released the meggatarpin unharmed and packed up our gear we got into our jetpacks and left for home, having met our release quota for the month. This was the first Meggatarpin we had taken in the last two years. They say these fish have been around since prehistoric times but that there are probably no more than 1,000 left along Florida's east coast. With catch and release fishing allowing each of the 30,000,000 florida anglers only two days/year to fish for them and a one fish allowance for releasing; it's doubtful we will ever catch another.

I guess we are lucky though. We heard last week that the ASMFC has just tightened up on the coastwise Striped Bass regulations. Each state gets 2 days per year per angler but fishing must be done by groups of 10 or more and that is 1 fish per group for each day allowed. Minimum size is now 52 inches and only handlines are allowed and no boat fishing either.

Good news is the NPS has opened all of the national seashores to fishing with a special permit which costs each fisherman $100 and allows him to enter a silent auction for the 2 one-day permits allowed in each national seashore. Rumer has it that the winning bids last year were over $50,000 each but, NPS will not discuss it.
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Old 06-30-2011, 01:54 PM
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Just got back from the beach with my grandson. Wills is a world class caster, which is a good thing since I can't cast from my beach gurney.

I think we had a good time and may have caught some fish --- but can't remember for sure ---- it's been 15 minutes since we got back. As soon as I change these wet clothes I'll be more more comfortable -- not sure if the surf got me or if I just peed my pants again.

If we did catch anything we'll have it for dinner --- if I can find my damn teeth. If we have no fish we'll eat plover --- there's an open season on them since they have become a nuisance and health hazard and all of the natural predators are long gone to NPS trapping. Plover fever has spread and is sickening those who survived the sea turtle plague.

With any luck I'll have another report tomorrow -- if my herbalist is open for medication. I think it's been 20 years since our free healthcare put all the doctors out of business.

Sometimes I'm happy that I can't remember --- I think!

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Old 07-02-2011, 03:38 PM
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The futuristic space travel tenor of this thread does nothing for me. All I can ad is that so many people by then will find shore fishing too much work that it will not be at all crowded.
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20 years from now .... Frank Who ?
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Thanks Hook, you did not have to remind me that age 100 I would be dead. I allredy knew it.
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20 years from now, People will be calling for this to be a "gamefish", catch and release

HOW TO: SIMPLE SEA ROBIN FILLET

With its mild taste, abundance in local waters and eager willingness to take a baited hook, the sea robin could be the perfect inshore target species. Here is a simple way to prepare them for the table!
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Expect a minimum size regulation, a season, daily bag limit. Enforcement will be even busier so that requires a new enforcement office, a janitor for that office, an accountant for the payroll.
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HOW TO: SIMPLE SEA ROBIN FILLET

With its mild taste, abundance in local waters and eager willingness to take a baited hook, the sea robin could be the perfect inshore target species. Here is a simple way to prepare them for the table!
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I read an article in Long Island fisherman 30-40 years ago talking about eating them. I caught a big one camping in Montauk in May. I filleted it and it was riddled with worm holes... YUK!!!!!! Never tried again.
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It just shows you how bad the activity has gone, that publications have to devote pages to the pursuit of "junkfish".

I mean, at the dawn of the internet, someone came up with a web site, but now magazine's covering this?

As I used to say as a kid: "Awww, come ONNNNN" (with whiny 10 year old's voice)

I once ran into a blitz of spawners at Sandy Hook and got'em on the fly using poppers.

So, twenty years from now, there'll be a guide service advertising "flats fishing for birds"
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Bruce,

John Geiser from the Asbury Park Press wrote a book back in that time frame called "The Shore Catch"... where, if I recall, he gives the edibility, with recipes, of virtually every fish caught within the new york bite... except for most rays and a mola mola (ocean sunfish)

But here we are again (maybe magazine articles go in cycles, just like fish )
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Ma is a terrible state tax wise for retirees , Virgina is not much better
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