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Old 12-21-2017, 12:34 PM
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Tell our members about some of the unsavory things which have happened to you in your fishing travels. For instance, one time on the Cape in East Orleans we bought corn in a roadside stand at an unreasonably high price. When we got out on the beach it was rotten. I couldn't very well bring it back because we found out 12 miles down the beach. Later, when I complained after three days on the beach, they wanted to see it. The gulls had already eaten it. I have a dozen more bad experiences as a victim tourist. Your turn.
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Old 12-22-2017, 07:36 AM
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Have fished in the Bahamas for bonefish with good guides and decent success. This one guide was lazy and took me for "boat rides" . He jumped from place to place and hardly did the poling grunt work that is normally required. Needles to say his tip reflected his efforts. Bet a lot of guys have been taken on "boat rides".
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Old 12-22-2017, 02:04 PM
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Good one, David. That is exactly what I am talking about; great example.

One time in Wellfleet we stopped to get ice cream for the kids. I paid for the cones and as the kids walked away with them each (4) had the scoop fall to the ground. I went back to the counter and the women said, "the cones were okay when I gave them to them,"
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Old 12-23-2017, 09:04 AM
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Hmmm, can't say I've really run into tourist traps while fishing, or in fishing exploits.... but perhaps my brain is just covering up the bad ones.

I went on a boat down in Fl last year that was a leave the rod in the holder and reel trip, when I thought it was going to be a standup fight type of boat. Not a big deal since the captain was great to talk with up on the bridge, and had my son who is no big time angler... turned out we reeled in a lot of small tuna and actually wound up with a couple of big rod benders with an amberjack and something much bigger that broke off the 80lb class tackle.

But had I been looking for a real "fishing trip" out of it, I would have been extremely disappointed and felt taken.

Haven't used many guides, and those were all fine IME.
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Old 12-23-2017, 03:10 PM
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I have a dozen horror stories from Maine. In the early 1980s the Worden Service and Maine State Police used to stop traffic for fish and game roadblocks. They would wave all the cars with Maine plates through but stop and search all out-of-state cars for illegal fish or game. SAM, Sportsmans Alliance of Maine, protested these illegal and discriminatory searches foistered upon "folks from away". But it did little good and a lot of out-of-state members of SAM quit.
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Old 12-23-2017, 09:01 PM
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I can remember not being helped on a head boat fishing for tog but in that case it went both ways. The mates spent time helping the regulars a lot more than me, but i could have used a few pointers to get a clue. Even when they switched to fishing for porgies, guys were bailing them and i was pretty much skunked ( think i caught one or two ) Looking back, I ( and a buddy with me who had even less experience ) laugh at myself imagining what I must have looked like to the experienced anglers. On the other hand, it would not have hurt one of them to offer a few tips, which I hope I would do now, were I in a similar situation. Not exactly " tourist trap " stuff but a common experience back then... similar to the local tackle shops where all the excited talk seemed to diminish when i walked in, and pick up as I headed out the door. Stuff I couldnt care less about now but did bother me a bit when I was a newbie.

The stuff you mention in Maine must've really burned you, Frank!
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Old 12-24-2017, 12:52 PM
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Our local Murat's Tackle Shop had a reputation for doin that sudden silence thing when googan anglers walked in. The hangaround's behavior of the day hurt that B&T enormously. I knew all the offenders and they were a bunch of phonies. Many was the night we blitzed bass in the shadows of their campers while they slept. Still, they swaggered.
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There's a small B & T/fly shop in a southern state where the owner is an angler/author, seemed pleasant and helpful. I stopped in there twice,for about 20 minutes each while on vacation. Each time, one or two people stopped in while I was there, and 2-3 people were working each time.

A couple months later on my yearly MV trip, I tell a friend there (who winters near the above-mentioned B & T) that I stopped at this southern shop etc. He starts f-bombing, saying that he'll never buy anything there again. Apparently, my friend (a personable, retired physician) would stop in there weekly, chat for a little while, occassionally buy something, and even bring the owner copies of a northern fishing publication (the owner was originally from the NE). After a time, the owner asked him NOT to hang around there anymore! Someone needs to work on their "customer service" skills...
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One time we stopped at a roadside stand in Kittery Maine because their sign said, "lobsters -- $3/Pound". When the nice lady was putting them into a bag, I noticed that the lobsters had no claws.
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Vacationed in Chatham, Ma about six years ago. House was one back from
The beach and looked great in the pictures. I failed to ask if The house had ac which was a critical error. Of course it
had no air conditioning and it was the hottest week of the summer. 90-95 degrees everyday with not a
Puff of wind. It was a nightmare....my daughter was still a baby so it was a real disaster trying to get her to bed. One night we had to check in to Chatham bars inn as we soaked
The sheets with sweat and my daughter was up crying. We were really
Worried she was going to get heat sicknesses. Chatham bars inn is a nice place, but will cost you dearly. There was also a sign on the fridge of house that said ants are part of the beach so get used
To them. There were ants all over the counter it was disgusting. Worst family vacation ever. House would probably sell for 3 million dollars, but I've been more
Comfortable in a tent. Wife
Won't go back to Chatham.
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One time we stopped at a roadside stand in Kittery Maine because their sign said, "lobsters -- $3/Pound". When the nice lady was putting them into a bag, I noticed that the lobsters had no claws.
I seem to remember one of those stands, too, Frank, though we found out before we paid and then moved on, a bit PO'd.
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A lot of places treat tourists differently apparently viewed as fair game for screwing. We had a lot of experience with Cape Cod and Maine, both aweful. Safest place we ever had a lot of experience with was Rhode Island.
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While most of our travels were fishing based, the best experiences we had were downhill skiing and casino stays. We never had a bad experience but then we never skied in Maine. Casinos make you feel very important and treat everybody well. There are no lice in casino beds.
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If you ever sleep in a bed with lice, you will know it. Lie still for one minute and they start biting. Don't know if the ones we experienced in Maine are the same ones everywhere. Because we never had them anywhere else.
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You mean bed bugs or lice?

Bed bugs are the typical biting insects in {used to be} cheap hotels.

Nowadays, they can be anywhere, and we actually carry some repellent with us, just in case.

Lice "stay with you" and require a lotion to be applied to your body.

Worst ever are scabies... got those one time and I won't share the story how.
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