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Old 03-20-2009, 11:55 PM
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AS many of you know, the State of NJ is under federal mandate to establish a salt water license. If NJ fails to do so the feds will do it and take the money. At this point it is about who we trust with the money the State of New Jersey or the Federal Government. With the feds we have zero chance it will be dedicated to improve are fishing resource, it goes directly to the general fund. The money can be dedicated to fish and wildlife in NJ, if NJ creates a salt water license. The money collected from hunting and fresh water fishing licenses and permits has been dedicated to fish and wildlife for over one hundred years?.In that time it has never been used for anything other than fish and wildlife. So we do have a chance if NJ establishes a salt water license. The NJ salt water license will generate about 40 million dollars annually to enhance your fishing opportunities. Take the summer flounder season as an example. If we had a salt water license in place this year here are some of the season possibilities, You would buy a license for the summer flounder season you prefer be it April 15 to June15 or June 16 to August 15 you get the point more flexibility in the seasons. As for the party and charter industry they could buy a license to cover all their costumers. Vacationers would be able to buy one day or week license. Without the license split seasons are not a possibility due to enforcement issues. Zero dollars anually to enhance NJ recreational fishing or 40 million dollars annually to enhance recreational fishing in our State? Now is the time to speak up.Take the pole.http://Kensdock.wordpress.com
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Old 03-22-2009, 07:39 PM
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the state should have an inherent responsibility to protect natural resources that generate business revenue, the intercoastal and ocean are no different, the Jersey B&T, party and charter boat industry is a strong component of the local economies on the shore, reducing rec fishers, reduces their business and in turn reduces state tax revenue

there is no way 1.4 mil are buying a SW license, whatever the number is most of the money will be paying for the beuracracy it will create, ESPECIALLY the enforcement, they dont enforce the rags now, I've been checked ONCE in the last 10 years, but me thinks no one will be checking at 11pm on a Tuesday at 68th st...

Split fluke seasons? how exactly will that help? less fishing? stock that limited then you need to cut the season more, no one is confusing fluke with a game fish, people catch them to eat them, i've had plastic bags in current that fought harder

SW fees are just another reason for recs to hammer the fish and fill the coolers.."I'm getting my money's worth" will be the most common phrase

Party boats need a party license? increase the trip fee, reduce biz, increase the "I'm getting my money's worth" mentality...
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Old 06-18-2010, 05:28 PM
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AS many of you know, the State of NJ is under federal mandate to establish a salt water license.
Absolutely false! There is no Federal mandate to implement a saltwater license, only a registry of saltwater anglers and spearos.


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If NJ fails to do so the feds will do it and take the money.
NJ saltwater fishermen will, if the legislature refuses to act on a registry or license that meets the mandated registry requirements, have to pay a fee to register starting in 2011. This year it is free.


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At this point it is about who we trust with the money the State of New Jersey or the Federal Government. With the feds we have zero chance it will be dedicated to improve are fishing resource, it goes directly to the general fund. The money can be dedicated to fish and wildlife in NJ, if NJ creates a salt water license. The money collected from hunting and fresh water fishing licenses and permits has been dedicated to fish and wildlife for over one hundred years?.In that time it has never been used for anything other than fish and wildlife. So we do have a chance if NJ establishes a salt water license.
About as much chance as the shellfish side had when Corzine grabbed over $850,000.00 last year and we are now in jeopardy of losing our commercial shellfish industry when we run out of money to enforce the Federal regulations for that fishery. As well as the numerous examples of other "dedicated funds" that have never made it to the purposes they were collected for throughout this State.


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The NJ salt water license will generate about 40 million dollars annually to enhance your fishing opportunities. Take the summer flounder season as an example. If we had a salt water license in place this year here are some of the season possibilities, You would buy a license for the summer flounder season you prefer be it April 15 to June15 or June 16 to August 15 you get the point more flexibility in the seasons.
Your math skills are lacking. Even at 1.4 million anglers and spearos in NJ, which is a wildly exaggerated figure, the license would have to start at $28.50 to reach your $40,000,000.00.


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As for the party and charter industry they could buy a license to cover all their costumers.
They are exempt under the registry mandate as they report their customers, catch via another system.


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Vacationers would be able to buy one day or week license. Without the license split seasons are not a possibility due to enforcement issues. Zero dollars anually to enhance NJ recreational fishing or 40 million dollars annually to enhance recreational fishing in our State? Now is the time to speak up.Take the ole.http://Kensdock.wordpress.com
You had better check with Director Chanda before making a statement like that. Split seasons have been mandated by NMFS numerous times for several species with only a nine man force of COs.

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But charter/party boats will be required to pay for a boat license to fish in NJ waters come next year. They already have to do so to fish in NY waters. This will only increase fares and keep more of the tourists off the boats when the fares go up. Take it, it might not be a huge increase in fares but with the economy now and less people taking vacations it will add up. It's a bunch of crap that we need to PAY to fish for SW fishing when they don't enforce the current regs!!! It's a joke. I'm 32 and between SW and FW I've been approached once FW fishing and had the C/O officer check our boat once..... How about the people on the piers and rock piles that take whatever they want??
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S1122:
12/9/2010 10:00:00 AM Environment and Energy
Committee Room 10, 3rd Floor, State House Annex, Trenton, NJ

Senate Environment and Energy Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 10:00 AM Meeting - Committee Room 10, 3rd Floor, State House Annex, Trenton, NJ

The committee will hear testimony from representatives of the Department of Environmental Protection and members of the public concerning the department's implementation of the "Site Remediation Reform Act," P.L.2009, c.60.


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A823 Saltwater fishing, free reg.-estab. SEN3/22/2010
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NJ Senate Environmental and Energy Committee

Senator Bob Smith - Chair
Legislative District 17

216 Stelton Road
Suite E-5
Piscataway, NJ 08854-3284

Phone: 732-752-0770
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P.O. Box 398
Fair Lawn, NJ 07410

Phone: 201-703-9779
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Email: SenGordon@njleg.org
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Somerville, NJ 08876-2308

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