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Old 02-04-2004, 11:25 AM
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I've always fished plugs using a mono leader tied directly to my line, often with a pair of uni knots .
Does anyone prefer to use a swivel for the leader-to-line connection, and if so, what kind of swivel, and why?

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Old 02-04-2004, 11:25 AM
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I've always fished plugs using a mono leader tied directly to my line, often with a pair of uni knots .
Does anyone prefer to use a swivel for the leader-to-line connection, and if so, what kind of swivel, and why?

"Give a man a fish, and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he'll piss away the kids' tuition fund on fancy equipment he doesn't need, stay out late at night, come home smelling like a dead mackerel, and start hanging around with some really questionable characters."
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Old 02-04-2004, 11:42 AM
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dave, since I only use a snap to attach my plug to my leader, I use a small swivel to attach the line to the leader. I use arouind a 48" leader. I guess I use the swivel to make leader changing alittle easier, even tho the uni-to-uni is not hard. I also like to have a swivel due to line twist. And some people use a snap swivel to attach their plug. Big No No. JOe

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Old 02-04-2004, 12:06 PM
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Ok, stupid question here. Why is using a snap swivel a "Big No No" and how is it different than just using the snap? Seriously, I am curious.
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Old 02-04-2004, 12:15 PM
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Well from what I understand and BELIVE, just using a snap does not take away from the action of the plug, the way its meant to swim or the way the manufacture thinks it should swim. I also believe, and when I used to use a snap/swivel my plug used to foul with the leader(hooks over the line) and make it just a piece of junk being reeled in. When just using a snap, this has stopped. I'm sure someone else can add to this also..JMO, JOe

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Old 02-04-2004, 12:23 PM
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I use a swivel as it makes the connection between braid and mono easier to tie.

Benny, lures get their action from the resistance of being dragged through the water. A swivel will allow the lure to rotate which will divert energy that should be going into the desired action -vs- unwanted rotation.

A swivel at the end of a leader doesn't have much impact as the friction from the water on the length of leader provides enough resistance.

or at least that's my explination...

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Old 02-04-2004, 12:28 PM
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Yeah, yeah, thats what I meant. , JOe

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Old 02-04-2004, 12:42 PM
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Ok, that makes sense, thanks. I usually tie lures straight onto the leader except for some metals which is time consuming. I will have to try using just a clip when I switch to plugs in the Summer. What do you guys do with the split rings? leave them on or remove them? Sorry for being a PITA, this thread sparked curiosity.
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Old 02-04-2004, 12:46 PM
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Good question, Makes me think, I believe when the plug comes with a split ring I leave them on. To be honest, most of my fish come from bait. Altho I'm not fishless on plugs, I'm willing to take any info on this subject too. JOe

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Old 02-04-2004, 01:27 PM
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What do you guys do with the split rings? leave them on or remove them? Sorry for being a PITA, this thread sparked curiosity.


I leave them on, others remove them and tie direct...it's all personal preference. I doubt you would notice much difference.

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Old 02-04-2004, 05:48 PM
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I use a larger spro or sampo barrels. its easier to tie them. they still are not really that big. then I use a #4 rosco duolock snap. they are rated at 50# which is fine since I use 20#PP on most occasions and 30-40# leaders. 50 sometimes if I cant catch anything but gators.

I change plugs a lot so I use a snap. I personally dont think someone who ties directly (via any knot) gets much better action. if a fish is going to ignore three big a$$ shiny treble hooks, do you think they are going to care about some small black snap?


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Old 02-04-2004, 10:53 PM
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Thanks for the responses. A lot of different approaches. I'm staying with a knot for the braid-to-leader connnection, but I'll experiment with a snap for the lure. I don't change leaders often during a single trip unless I'm fishing rocky areas, but I continually try different lures.

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Old 02-04-2004, 11:26 PM
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thats another thing to note Dave. If you are fishing at night and the leader happens to get frayed, how do you re-tie without significant downtime? for the "braid to mono" and "braid to barrel" dilemma I offer these situations:

a) you can use a uni-uni or albright knot to tie the braid to mono. to me this is pretty tough in the dark...a perfect uni or albright is even tougher (these are the two I use when tying braid to mono). I dont like lights because it takes your eyes a while to adjust after you use a light to tie in the dark. It probably longer than you think for the eyes to completely adjust to the darkness. I personally cant tie them in the dark without light.

b) you use a barrel and tie a simple knot like a clinch to the barrel and you are back in action faster without light.

thats my theory. I dont want to much downtime and try to limit light when possible.

anyone agree?

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Old 02-04-2004, 11:44 PM
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Bring a light

I use a swivel just cuz it's a bit easier to tie to and it's necesarry for many tins.

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Old 02-05-2004, 09:08 AM
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Does anyone using braid tie direct to the plug without using a mono leader? Will the fish be able to "see" the braid easily?
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